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Kimmi Chan
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Posted - 2014.02.23 16:22:00 -
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When I started playing 6 years ago, I was led away from PvP.
The CEO in the corp I was in would tell us all to stay docked up during a wardec. I was told to never, under any circumstances, go to low sec. I was told to mission for standings. I was one of those people that was told that I need this, that, and the other thing to be viable in PvP.
The result, I am a 50m SP character who sucks at PvP and has missed out on a lot of what this game has to offer. I have really good corp and faction standings which in the grand scheme of things is worth **** all.
I will confirm that IRL I ******* hate people. Not any person in particular. Just all of them. I blame it on tending bar for 4 1/2 years. ******* drunks make humanity look ******* ********.
I hate people in game too! They whine and cry and complain every day about how they want the game changed to meet their desires instead of just playing the god damn game the way it is. Bunch of whining assholes.
I did see a corp advertisement for Red Federation and am considering joining to have some fun in the other parts of this game that I was cheated out of when I first started playing.
And I really don't give a **** if people call me a carebear. Bears are ******* awesome. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:47:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Man, look how many people are going ridiculously far out of their way to try and impose their ego's upon me.
One autistic guy said he's paying dudes 500m isk for my corpse. Another autistic guy is speculating strike wings of players maintaining military formation and battle comms while "on the hunt".
You're so affected.
Because I'm right. You can't handle that a 3 week old character who will lose to you in game ONLY because you have superior skills and more time invested, can completely devastate you on the forums, while outnumbered.
Ultimately, you should NOT care what it is I say. I have zero influence in game. Yet, because you're PSYCHOPATHS, you need to feel that you are controlling the situation. You can't handle that I, someone you have no respect for because ultimately you only respect yourself and people who feed into your delusional perception of yourself, am completely shattering your mind with a bunch of words.
I understand your brain is broken, so I'll do whatever I can to help stabilize your mental equilibrium. I'm going to log in and undock, so you can come kill a new player, 3 weeks old, to feel better about yourself.
So much rage. Look kid, I don't need to shoot at you to feel better about myself. This post, however, has definitely made me feel better about myself because I'm not you and just thank heaven for that.
I laughed, I cried. I would read it again. ****, I'd read it with my family and rave about it to my friends (if I had any).
Divine Entervention wrote:So you can tell me you're not the person who needs to kill new players to feel better about himself. . . . .
I don't need to kill new players. I just need to read the impotently raging posts on the Eve-O forums.
Well done lad, well done.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:59:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:You do know there are people other than you right?
If you simply read the thread, it's fairly obvious who it is I'm speaking to.
Except it doesn't matter. Impotent rage makes me laugh.
Divine Entervention wrote:Though since you do think it's directed towards you, maybe there's a part of you that acknowledges similarities with what I've written.
Oh, I know it's not directed towards me. Truth is that it matters not. You're a funny little guy.
Divine Entervention wrote:And raging? why would I be raging when I'm winning?
Winning? At forums? LOL "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:17:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Winning? At forums? LOL I'm new to the game. A game with an inverted pyramid of opportunity. My skills are zero, and there's not a single ship I can fly to it's maximum potential. While I play "Eve the waiting game", what else am I suppose to win at?
Stop waiting and go shoot at something. Sure, you might lose a ship. The cool thing is that ship is a renewable resource. ISK is a renewable resource. I shot at a station in a Golem once just to see if the barrage of EWAR from the 5-0 would hit me in Bastion. It does.
The game is much more fun than the forums. I lurk here when I'm at work because I certainly don't want to be caught working at work.
Go out and shoot at stuff. Everything in the game is a target.
Have you watched the Clear Skies shorts? Those are pretty good.
Honestly, I don't give a damn how you spend your time waiting. But this just seems like a waste. Win or lose, you still lose.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:01:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:In the mean time, while I'm sitting afk at a plex on my main with zero alts, I'll do other things that might be more entertaining.
That's the spirit! "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:07:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:In the mean time, while I'm sitting afk at a plex on my main with zero alts, I'll do other things that might be more entertaining. That's the spirit! Like make suggestions in the "Does Eve need new players?" thread. Considering I, being a new player, am totally bored right now because there's next to nothing efficient for a new player to do except die alot and make people who need to kill new players to feel good about themselves; there needs to be something to do. How about a set of missions I can run that would take approximately 2 hours worth of time invested to reward me with 12-24 hours of 2x skill point generation? That way, I'm motivated to log in and do things other than log in and watch my skill points go up hoping some day I'll be able to fly that kitsune or blackbird.
Get a Griffin.
If you want more skill points, go back in time, and start playing then.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:13:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote: I'd be happy to recommend a number of single player games that you can use cheat codes / other mechanisms to advance faster than the game pacing would allow
I can tell him how to make break Skyrim with Enchanting.
Ai Shun wrote:or some MMOs that will allow you to purchase a max level character. There are a few of those that will allow you to skip the learning curve for instant gratification and it might be that provides a better gaming experience for you.
Everquest is now nothing but powerlevelers and the powerlevelled. - A bunch of idiots who don't know how to play the game and have ****** skills. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:29:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:I can tell you haven't really read the thread because I've stated already that I fly a griffin. Which dies repeatedly and has next to zero survivability compared to a kitsune and a blackbird.
So instead of insanely continuing to fly and fit griffins, I only do a percentage of my time because ultimately, it would be deception to believe flying one would result in anything other than my own destruction.
Now, considering my short term goal is a kitsune followed by a blackbird, I have to wait.
You'll be in a Blackbird before you're in Kitsune.
Divine Entervention wrote:Now considering there is nothing to do other than wait
This is categorically bullshit. There is plenty to do. Your only limitations are those of your own making. Those of us that have been around a while had to train Learning Skills. They were skills you trained so you could train skills faster. And we shot at stuff while we waited for them to finish.
We shot other players. We shot at rats. We shot at asteroids.
Divine Entervention wrote:, I would like to make some suggestions to add incentive to my, and other new players desire to actually log in.
More than the incentive that the game is fun. Look man, if this **** isn't fun for you then Jonah's got it pegged - you need to just go. At this point, the only real reason to keep your account active is because of your stellar and well reasoned posting here.
Divine Entervention wrote:Like, missions we could run to increase skill point generation for a set amount of time. That way, we're logged in for at least 2 hours applying ourselves to accomplishing objectives. It's a learning experience with a desirable reward, AND it puts us in the game for you, as people who can potentially be interactable content for you to enjoy.
As is, I can accomplish almost as much offline as I can accomplish online. What message does that send to new people, that the game they are interested in doesn't need or really want them to log in and do something?
There's no reward. Considering established players obtain their rewards from killing each other or influencing galactic politics, maybe manufacturing high isk items and making a huge sale, where is the reward for new people?
Incentives to not intentionally handicap yourself with limitations that don't exist? You want rested experience? LOL, no.
Divine Entervention wrote:We're already going to lose every engagement.
Well with that attitude it's no wonder. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:31:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:We're not financially established enough to have any impact on markets, and it takes time to get industry related skills and the capital to become involved in crafting.
Sure you are. And we call it manufacturing.
Divine Entervention wrote:Everyone's reward is advancement.
If that is the reward why should you be able to bypass everything I did to get my reward?
Divine Entervention wrote:The majority of potential regarding advance with new players is and can be done soley offline. In comparison, there's no real reason for a new player to log in.
That is true for me too. I can advance offline because of the unique skill training in this game. Or, you know, I could log on and have fun.
Divine Entervention wrote:So I suggest missions for new people to run that will grant them at least 2x skill point generation for 24 hours.
LOL, no. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.02.24 22:00:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:have a good day!
I've already had a good day.
You have a good day!
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Posted - 2014.02.24 22:23:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Have we gotten a full bingo card from this guy yet?
He's either a sanctimonious troll or truly believes what he posts, I'm not sure which is worse TBH.
Either way, it seems that Eve is not a game he should be playing, he obviously doesn't get Eve, thinks he knows better than everybody else and feels that as a newbie he should be the equal of older players, thus devaluing the investment said older players have in Eve.
You forgot that he wins...
At forums...
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:52:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:In a few days, you can decently fit a frigate such as a rifter. Now you can tackle other ships for your buddies to kill or scout out potential targets. Amen, Fred. And you can do this, along with some of the other things you mentioned, while working your way through the tutorials. Which gift you with ships, some basic modules and teaches some of the skills you'll need in-game while giving you some time to train up to get into that Rifter. The rest is just playing and building on what you've learned.
I think a lot of the problem is that agents don't have glowy exclamation marks about their heads to alert you to an available quest.
I also think that it's too hard to get into a good guild.
You also can't make enough money in crafting to fund any instanced PvP arena stuff and get teh ph4t lu3tz!
When can we take down the world boss?
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:11:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Mittens wins Eve by not logging in I read this today. The idea of that opening paragraph: Quote:Alex "The Mittani" Gianturco is a long-time Eve Online player. In real life, he's a retired DC attorney. In Eve, he's a ruthless space dictator. Thinking about his journey from fresh-faced player to being arguably the most powerful person in the game, he tells me none of it was planned. "If you were to tell me five years ago I'd be living in Wisconsin and running a space empire full time, I'd think you were crazy." But that's what he now does. Most of his days are spent managing people in his space alliance, running his own video game news website and doing yoga. I'd like to spend my days playing EVE and doing yoga too
Sure but is Space Alliance Grand Pumpa something one can put on their CV?
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:17:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Edit, wrong forum Now I feel dumb
This is me ---------> <--------- laughing at you.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 01:45:00 -
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Karon Grandolf wrote:EVE needs a steady influx of new players. Extend the question to whether high sec war mechanics aid or counteract the need for new players.
I've stated before how the war dec mechanic was changed, now the number of concurrent wars is unlimited. That means that a high sec war deccing corp, for instance 4 members, can war dec an unlimited number of corps. Thus an unlimited number of pilots can be war decced by a very small number of players at the same time.
When buying subscription we pay for play time. The time can be spend doing a range of different things in the game, and I've previously mentioned how EVE offers a ranged set of activities when it comes to involvement. From the AFK hauling to deep concentration and elaborate teamwork.
A high sec war limits the available mechanics. For the high sec deccing corp this is not really a hindrance, since their purpose is not to engage in the activities limited by a war dec. For a corp designed to help very new players, and engage in the trading and/or industrial activities, a war completely changes activities viable to engage in. You can no longer engage in your primary purpose.
For the sake of argument we can pool all the paid gametime together for each week. Lets say that a weeks combined play time for all accounts currently playing is 10.000 hours and this number do not change (we dont have to calculate fractions then).
1.000 hours of those belong to the deccing corps, it is counted as voluntary PVP game time. The rest belong to the high sec dwellers helping new players and doing industry together. If the high sec deccers are limited to three concurrent war decs at any time, they may as a group only be able to war dec a limited number of pilots in high sec. Thus maybe 4000 hours of gametime would be spend under war conditions, 3000 of those counted as involuntary PVP game time. 6000 game hours is spend doing peace time activities.
Removing the limit of concurrent wars can result in an increase in game hours spend under war conditions. The 1000 hours of voluntary PVP game time stays the same, but there is an increase in involuntary PVP game time.
That means that if a player is looking for the high sec peace time experience doing missions, mining and/or industry, the time he can expect to engage in that has been decreased due to the unlimited access to war deccing of a smaller number of players. A small number of players has been granted a huge potential influence on other peoples game time. Something that was not available before to the same extend. The balance between voluntary and involuntary PVP has been changed.
Now it is quite possible for players to shift their game time from involuntary PVP to escape this condition. It comes with consequences of course. The methods has been repeated time and time again everytime high sec war is being discussed in the forums. There are two main routes.
The first route is to adapt to the war conditions and engage in PVP against the agressor. It can sometimes be difficult cause the deccing part will often hunt for single vulnerable targets or stay docked in face of serious opposition. It can be fun and great to embrace the war condition, but it still limits the available viable gameplay that peace offers in high sec.
The second route is to leave the player corp and return to an NPC corp. The full range of gameplay is again available. However being in an NPC corp is not as effective in building social units. When players leave a corp during war, there's also the chance that they will create single player corporations to get the economical benefits of a corp. This may lead to an increase in the number of corporations and a decrease in the avarage number of members in each corp. The social aspect of the game could suffer from this.
A war either means you accept the limits to your game time and engage in the available PVP experience, or you are barred from the benefits of a corporation. With an increase in game time under war conditions, EVE offers a less varied and exciting experience than before. Unless of course you're only into EVE for a limited type of experience. War kills a part of the game for a time, and that time has been increased I believe. More game hours are now spend during involuntarty PVP. What war offers is limited in a high sec context, and may apeal to a majority of the war deccers, but maybe not so much to the pilots being decced.
High sec mercenary and griefer corporations with 50+ concurrent war decs is an abomination in my opinion, it allows for a minority of players to dictate a drastic limitation of available game experience for a very large group of other players. I don't think wars should be banned, cause they do provide some valuable experiences and sets a great environment, even when they are not active. The uncertainty of when the next war comes was a great addition to the game previously. Now war seems almost boringly predictable, the thrill of uncertainty is gone.
I find myself seeking other games for the kind of experiences that is no longer available to me to the same degree in EVE.
This'll end well...
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:34:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Considering I, being a new player, am totally bored right now because there's next to nothing efficient for a new player to do except die alot and make people who need to kill new players to feel good about themselves; there needs to be something to do.
Then you're doing it wrong, because it was thanks to Griffins flown by newbs that I've lost a pimped-out 124mil isk pvp Ishkur, and a Cynabal. Maybe don't warp to zero next time?
I already told him to fly Griffins. He told me to go **** myself. LOL.
He also wants to get into a Kitsune AND THEN a Blackbird.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:37:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Considering I, being a new player, am totally bored right now because there's next to nothing efficient for a new player to do except die alot and make people who need to kill new players to feel good about themselves; there needs to be something to do.
Then you're doing it wrong, because it was thanks to Griffins flown by newbs that I've lost a pimped-out 124mil isk pvp Ishkur, and a Cynabal. Maybe don't warp to zero next time? I already told him to fly Griffins. He told me to go **** myself. LOL. He also wants to get into a Kitsune AND THEN a Blackbird. It's almost like skillplans don't exist. Or that he thinks he's a special snowflake and the way things work don't apply to him. Not sure which.
Not sure that I care. Horrible noob is horrible.
Eve needs new players NOT new asshats.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:52:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Considering I, being a new player, am totally bored right now because there's next to nothing efficient for a new player to do except die alot and make people who need to kill new players to feel good about themselves; there needs to be something to do.
Then you're doing it wrong, because it was thanks to Griffins flown by newbs that I've lost a pimped-out 124mil isk pvp Ishkur, and a Cynabal. Maybe don't warp to zero next time? I already told him to fly Griffins. He told me to go **** myself. LOL. He also wants to get into a Kitsune AND THEN a Blackbird. It's almost like skillplans don't exist. Or that he thinks he's a special snowflake and the way things work don't apply to him. Not sure which. I didn't tell him to go **** himself. I assume he's become agitated or something? whatever, it's no matter. I stated I do fly griffins when the opportunity presents itself. I do have a skill plan going on right now. I'm about to get level 5 frigates done in like, 6 hours. After that, Longe range targetting to 5 so I can unlock EA ships. In the mean time, there's really nothing exciting for me to do. I've already tried fitting frigates and rushing at other people. I've come to the conclusion, after looking at the employment histories of all these frigate/destroyer pilots I've attacked, that I'm heavily disadvantaged regarding potential. If they've been playing for 5 years, they can fit a frigate to maximum efficiency, Most likely. I'd assume so. I mean, it's natural for people to want to be efficient when putting themselves into an competitive environment. My statements are centered around other than waiting, I can not do anything efficiently. And until I can begin standing on an equal footing where the difference in wins and losses is not predetermined by fittings and researched skills, I'll not truly know what it is I'm capable of, there fore all experience will be skewed to a point of being inconsequential in later determining the tactics necessary to win evenly matched combat engagements. I have to wait. I understand it. I'm letting you know that in the mean time, it's pretty boring and I would like something to do, some sort of game offered incentive to log in and perform actions. I've tried alot of actions thus far, and as of yet I've not found anything truly compelling to make me not want to play EvE Offline.
What are the other people in your FW Corp doing? Are they also not logging in to pew pew?
Out of curiosity, why are you not training Caldari Cruiser to level I to get into your Blackbird? I mean 11 days to get into your Kitsune or 32 minutes to jump in a Blackbird. Are you sure you've thought this through? Is your corp really letting you twist in the wind like this? Do they know you're here and how your posting prowess reflects on them in game?
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:56:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Eve needs new players NOT new asshats. A friend of a very good friend asked some questions about EVE last night.
- What level of time commitment do you need for EVE?
- What is the long term motivation to play?
- What is the biggest weakness in the game?
How do you answer those questions for somebody that hasn't played yet? I found them interesting and ended up writing more than I thought I would on the subject. This thread and the attitudes shown in it as well as the thread from Doireen Kaundur were very helpful in explaining the attitude I think an EVE player needs. Anyway, I offered to buddy him up and hopefully he'll give it a shot with an open mind and understanding!
These are some great questions!
I had to ask myself similar questions when I lost a Drake to a gate camp. I quit for a few months. I was really upset. I kept telling myself that the end game here was NullSec PVP and I had no interest in that so why should I bother playing. But in time I recognized that there is NO end game in this game. I recognized that PVP is going to happen but it is within my power to prevent or initiate it on my terms. I resubbed and found myself enjoying the game again, my way.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:27:00 -
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Karak Kashada wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:There is a potential fun, but as a new player we have to wait until time permits us to access it. It probably depends on your perspective, and on how you define "fun." Because of the constraints of the EVE framework, I won't be a threat to anyone in a PvP situation for a while, but I can still find fun in outsmarting the gankers, for all their skills and implants, etc. That's fun. And even if they eventually overtake and kill you, at least you have the satisfaction of having made them work for it, when they are probably so used to just mowing people over. Besides, there is more fun to be had in EVE at any given time than just combat PvP. But we're getting off-topic. The OP is about CCP's inability (apparent) to get and keep new players. I do believe that increasing the risk associated with making new players' lives miserable would help new players at least perceive that CCP wants them to stay. As it is, it seems that the message is, "New Eden is for people who have been playing for years. If you can endure all the pain we've programmed into the game, then we want you to stay, too."
You are not without a point here Master Kashada. Everyone here was new at one time and we all faced our own challenges. A new players most immediate need is in finding the right corp for them. They need a corp that is not going to let them waste away in oblivion and neglect. They need to find a corp that will teach them the ins and outs of this game. Those of us that have been here a while have a great deal of experience to offer a new player who shows an eagerness to learn as well as at least some modicum of respect, not because we immediately deserve any respect but because respect begets respect.
There are many corps that fit this mold. E-Uni, Brave Newbies, RvB. All very active and all very well respected among nearly the entirety of the Eve Population.
Just remember though, six years from now when you are terrorizing the stars of New Eden, that you were once a new player, and help out a newb now and then.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:52:00 -
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Karak Kashada wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Just remember though, six years from now when you are terrorizing the stars of New Eden, that you were once a new player, and help out a newb now and then. Indeed. I plan on mopping the universe of those who prey on the weak. ;)
That's a good broad goal but for now look at something more specific.
Kaarous and Scipio are very accomplished PvP enthusiasts (Kaarous is a psychopath, but a lovable psychopath). Their words here are very valuable.
Don't ever be okay with being told, "You can't do that". If anyone ever tells you, "You can't do that." You tell them to go **** themselves.
My experience is more with PvE in HighSec. I am what PvP enthusiasts lovingly call a "CareBear". The big difference between this CareBear and "those" carebears is I don't want the game to change to benefit my play unless it benefits everyone's play. So Kaarous and Scipio, at least somewhat, tolerate me.
Except for Mag's - he stole my tea cozys (cosys? that just looks weird). What a ****!
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:02:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:
My experience is more with PvE in HighSec. I am what PvP enthusiasts lovingly call a "CareBear". The big difference between this CareBear and "those" carebears is I don't want the game to change to benefit my play unless it benefits everyone's play. So Kaarous and Scipio, at least somewhat, tolerate me.
Theft of embroidery aside, I wanted to discuss this. That pretty much makes you not a carebear, Kimmi. Taking steps in your own defense and not abdicating it to CONCORD is the other major step, besides the attitude. A PvE player doesn't have to be a carebear.
But...
But...
Bears are awesome!
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:08:00 -
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Karak Kashada wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Man everyone in this thread is super mad that I was able to get First Lieutenant so much faster than them because I'm better in every way.
inb4 bitter vets try to diminish my accomplishments because they're jealous. I can't speak for everyone, but my guess is that no one has any idea what you're talking about.
Actually the poster you are quoting is the exact reason I mentioned the modicum of respect. He has none and therefore is deserving of none.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:22:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:You've already established yourself as someone who's sole purpose is to counter everything I say.
Everything you say is ridiculous ****.
Divine Entervention wrote:You stating an enjoyment of my being here is nothing other than you're trying to manipulate me, because that's the type of person you are. The type of person you continuously represent yourself to be.
Not at all. He's giving you **** because you like to do nothing but talk ****.
Divine Entervention wrote:A person not worthy of association.
And yet you continue to associate with him and talk **** to him.
Divine Entervention wrote:You're unorginal and predictable.
Like we did not see this post from you coming.
Seriously man. You really are horrible at this. LOL.
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It's YOUR not YOU'RE btw, if you're going to attempt to insult me at least use the correct version, you're is used for instances when you mean to say you are.
Spelling is important.
It means the difference between knowing your **** and knowing you're ****.
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Karak Kashada wrote:Anyone interested in the topic of the thread anymore?
I'd be happy to discuss it with you. I'm relatively certain that DE hid my posts several pages ago as he no longer responds to me with his snide and vitriolic comments.
I have no doubt others would like to discuss the topic at hand as well. Unfortunately, this thread has been derailed by a child tearing away feverishly at a napkin.
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Victoria Thorne wrote:if you keep your wits about you & have some knowledge of the mechanics.
I agree with the Vic here. I think this point above is very relevant. The number one thing that discourages new players is their ignorance of mechanics.
Aggression mechanics. Loot and salvage mechanics. War Dec mechanics. Safety mechanics.
The NPE is insufficient for explaining these complex at first intricacies. Sure they can get some info in Rookie Chat or the School chat but one can question the validity of the responses as well as the new players understanding of what is being told to them.
The hardest questions are the ones you don't know that you're supposed to ask.
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Ronny Hugo wrote:Game mechanic idea: If you war-dec someone, you can't dock in highsec when they target you. Would this work?
That would apply to both parties involved in a war.
They who initiate the wardec may not dock while targeted. They who are the recipient of said wardec can not dock while targeted.
I would also submit that the vernacular of aggressor and defender be changed. What, specifically, is the recipient of the war dec in possession of that requires defending?
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Jenn aSide wrote:Karak Kashada wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Just remember though, six years from now when you are terrorizing the stars of New Eden, that you were once a new player, and help out a newb now and then. Indeed. I plan on mopping the universe of those who prey on the weak. ;) Oh believe me, I did too. I came into the game with the intent of being a " (player) pirate hunter", I couldn't understand how anyone would want to be a pirate or other bad guy in a video game. 7 years later I'm neither player pirate hunter or player pirate (NPC pirates are a whole 'nother matter, I slaughter them buy the boatload, screw those guys). Mainly because while I don't personally find pirate play interesting, I've learned that the "pirates" (gankers, scammers, hell, just say Goons) are actually the well adjusted adult EVE players who can keep a video game in context while having fun. Meanwhile, the "weak" types are just too busy being delusional "Michael Jackson in Neverland" child-like people stuck in their own imaginations who take all of this game stuff way too seriously while they refuse to do anything in their own defense with all the free freaking Guns the game gives them.
Guns are free?
I'm the same. Long after I started they had that personality test thing and I was a Bounty Hunter. Unfortunately, I don't see enough of a profit for effort in hunting down player bounties, so I shoot NPC bounties.
Stealth "do something about bounties" post.
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The person who kills you in EVE (under any circumstances except in the noob systems) is no more "bad" than a person who takes your pieces in a game of chess or checkers. If you don't like (or at least can't stand) losing pieces, you should not be playing checkers, chess or EVE. If you cant stand bad words or people hurting your feelings, you should not be online at all.
The problem is that in the midst of spirited debate there are people that get too emotionally invested in being right. As though being wrong is somehow a catastrophic character flaw. It's not. It's okay to be wrong. It's okay to say, "I don't know." It's okay to say, "You know what, you're right. My mistake."
But again, too many people aren't capable of saying things like this. I am. I'm wrong all the time. There is a whole lot I don't know. If I form my opinion on biased or inaccurate information and someone points that out to me, I am adult enough to re-evaluate my opinion.
Not because I have any character flaws, we all do, but because I'm an adult.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:41:00 -
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CCP Manifest wrote:That having been said, we always appreciate more, so I'm hoping everyone is taking advantage of the "open buddy" invite from Account Management. Fly safe, fly together, teach newbros old tricks.
Manifest!! You shill!!! LOL
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:52:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:CCP Manifest wrote:That having been said, we always appreciate more, so I'm hoping everyone is taking advantage of the "open buddy" invite from Account Management. Fly safe, fly together, teach newbros old tricks. Manifest!! You shill!!! LOL <3 CCP Propaganda best Propaganda , that said CCP are in the best position to talk about the numbers of new and returning players in Eve, they have all the data.
Confirming Eve is dying.
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MHayes wrote:Give new players more SP.
New players can have as many SP as they want! By training skills in real time!! Yay training skills!!! "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Tippia wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:If SP doesn't matter, why can't I fly an Ishtar? Because you wisely chose not to. Also, what's with that corp history?! It rather looks like someone who can fly an Ishtar if he selects the right things in the launcher. I can fly an Ishtar if I start training for it today, and wait 47 days. I just think it is inaccurate to keep repeating the notion that sp doesn't matter. And since almost 1/3 of my 3.5m SP are in drones, the Ishtar is looking pretty appealing. Look, I get that you all had to wait for **** too and eve was even tougher for news back in the day, but for people to repeatedly claim sp doesn't matter is dishonest.
It matters for flying an Ishtar.
It matters not for flying an Ishtar well.
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Hanz Riemannder wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:..., but as a new player we have to wait until time permits us to access it. Rubbish. Complete and utter crap in a box. But I agree on one thing. Yes it does look like that in the beginning. Everything in New Eden screams murder and probable death TO you as the new guy on the block. How you choose to deal with this impression however, says everything about you as a player / gamer / person. If you want to sound like Calimero, then go right ahead. Link"In the Netherlands and Belgium, the term "Calimero complex" is used to denote someone who thinks the world is against them because they are an underdog; often the character's lines from the show are cited, "They are big and I is [sic] small and that is not fair, oh no!" (translated back from the Dutch, with intentional error)."Yes you have to wait for your SP to catch up. Why wouldn't you have to wait? The dude that is kicking your a** had to wait for them as well x number of years ago. Why would new people be given more / better SP when they start? Are we better than the veteran players? Did we do anything special to deserve extra SP to compete? If you weren't in a huge FW corp and if I had the ISK for solo-wardeccing people, I'd wardec your Calimero attitude into the ground. Just to show you what we poor new players can do. If your mouse pointer is now hoovering over the post button, stop and read the above bold text again! And again. And again. Stop victimizing every new player. It's pathetic.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 10:57:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Hanz Riemannder wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:..., but as a new player we have to wait until time permits us to access it. Rubbish. Complete and utter crap in a box. But I agree on one thing. Yes it does look like that in the beginning. Everything in New Eden screams murder and probable death TO you as the new guy on the block. How you choose to deal with this impression however, says everything about you as a player / gamer / person. If you want to sound like Calimero, then go right ahead. Link"In the Netherlands and Belgium, the term "Calimero complex" is used to denote someone who thinks the world is against them because they are an underdog; often the character's lines from the show are cited, "They are big and I is [sic] small and that is not fair, oh no!" (translated back from the Dutch, with intentional error)."Yes you have to wait for your SP to catch up. Why wouldn't you have to wait? The dude that is kicking your a** had to wait for them as well x number of years ago. Why would new people be given more / better SP when they start? Are we better than the veteran players? Did we do anything special to deserve extra SP to compete? If you weren't in a huge FW corp and if I had the ISK for solo-wardeccing people, I'd wardec your Calimero attitude into the ground. Just to show you what we poor new players can do. If your mouse pointer is now hoovering over the post button, stop and read the above bold text again! And again. And again. Stop victimizing every new player. It's pathetic. NVM, I don't feel like wasting my time with another person who demonstrates all he wants to do is insult me.
This is not an Eve player.
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Oliver Wendel Jones wrote:OFFS, why do you people keep responding to him? It's the same stuff over and over. Actually, most of the stuff here is... Meh, later.
Because we want him to keep posting.
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Divine Entervention wrote:Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:I couldn't care less about what you say. GǪand yet you answered. According to you, it means you care a whole lot. So which one is it? You're so easy. You pick and choose when the exact same phrase has validity based on the person saying it. I don't really feel that way. I obviously do care which is evidenced by my responding. yet when I infer that something is true of the whole from the fact that it is true of some part of the whole, you'll try to spin it the opposite way to paint me as wrong. You're so biased towards me. I don't know why I'm speaking with you when it's evidenced by you that your issue is with me, and not with what I am saying.
You choose to say what you are saying and I am making a judgement of your character based on those choices.
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